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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 3:23 am    Post subject: no wildcard address for mods? Reply with quote

i was just wondering if there is a way to ask the mods/admin on this site a generic question through pm without having to make a public question about an issue? i couldn't find a generic username that would let me pm mods in general. anyway, i wanted to know what happened to a post i made that i am very positive i made this post but it's not showing up? was i deleted? it was in the thread "anyone got a job?" that i started.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any time you have a question feel free to PM any mod, and we are usually mre than happy to put you in contact with whichever mod may have removed your post (or find it for you if you just lost it).. I'll see what I can find. Smile

EDIT: I don't see any posts of yours that were removed for any reason.. Confused
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 4:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello moondoggie,

Your post was removed as it was a double post. The contents of that double post were then appended to your earlier one with the edit tag added before it.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if that's the case i am still not seeing the post, even after i refreshed my browser window Confused
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 5:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moondoggie,

Your post is still there, and as mentioned the Edit I put in there is also there which includes the material from your double post.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ah, i see it now. i guess the problem is that: 1) it's on the first page, long before the last comment i made and (2) the post doesn't show up as new, and my point for posting was to update the situation. i understand that you don't want a double post, but i guess i wonder how long between posts to be considered as a new post? the last post was two days ago, and the one you edited it into was two days before that.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can understand how this would be a difficult scenaro to overcome ... you post something, then two days later have updated information you need to get across.

However, the threads are viewed in a manner of years and not days. Our effort is to keep the threads looking clean and uncluttered for reference purposes. This is why we ask our members to edit their last post instead of just hitting the reply key to the thread.

At the bottom of your last post, you'd just enter a phrase such as:

/Edit/

and add your followup/additional information below that.

As to contacting the staff in general via PM, simply address a PM to "Admins". We'll see it Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, i understand the editing feature, but if i want to update using the edit button, then the thread will still remain "old". i'm not trying to be confrontational about this, i just wonder what the benefits are of keeping the thread "old" even if i make 100 updates to the last post since most people will have stopped reading unless someone else posts in it after me. i'm not trying to boost my post count, since i know that is probably one of the main reasons you want us to edit. in this case i am trying to get the others who were on that thread an update, but if the thread remains "old" then i have no guarantee that they will read it unless i pm them that i updated.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

moondoggie wrote:
in this case i am trying to get the others who were on that thread an update, but if the thread remains "old" then i have no guarantee that they will read it unless i pm them that i updated.


Good point. No one wil look at the post since its marked old and you wouldn't get any answers to your question.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We ran into this problem a few years ago, and the result was that the practice of 'bumping' a post by means of posting a reply to it was badly abused. We ended up with posts where the OP had his opening, followed by six or seven replies bumping the post back to the top of the page.

We were forced to outlaw such a practice.

Next, an OP would post his question but omit some information. If nobody replied by the time his post worked it's way to the bottom of the page, he simply replied to himself adding in the omitted information and thereby bumping his post back to the top of the heap.

We were forced to outlaw this practice as well.

I wish there was a workable answer to this problem, but there really isn't one other than the Original Poster deleting his thread and reposting it with the additional information. Of course, this will only work if nobody first replies to that thread.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, perhaps there could be a time frame that you are not allowed to bump? i didn't think it would be unreasonable to reply after two days of no activity.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

moondoggie,

What to you may seem reasonable is not to others. It happens that sometimes a question goes unanswered. After all people here are not paid to post. They are doing so voluntarily. May be an idea to keep that in mind Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i totally understand what you're saying. i am a sometimes mod on another site so i know what goes into it. but i guess i felt like i had something to update that i thought the others who participated would like to know, but the way it came out with the editing keeps the others from knowing that anything has changed.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It indeed is a frustrating circumstance, but one which doesn't rise often ... possibly once in 800 posts. Therefore we have to side with the odds and disallow double-posting to keep our forums looking clean and professional.

Please know that posting edited information indeed is not a waste of your time since we have google hits and new members reading old messages constantly. You are helping the community by taking the extra step in updating your information. It may not seem immediately rewarding, but in the long run -- it benefits all.
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