Need help with Icons background!!!

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Author: igir3dsk1Location: 7h3 !n73rn37 :) PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2002 6:03 pm    Post subject: Need help with Icons background!!!
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I making a web page,when I see it from linux(Galeon),the background of the icons are transparent,now when I see the web page with windows(IE),it shows the icons backgrounds.I know that Internet does not support .png files.

Any ideas?

Thanks a lot.

-r3dsk1-

Author: flwLocation: U.S.A. PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2002 8:42 pm    Post subject:
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I making a web page,when I see it from linux(Galeon),the background of the icons are transparent,now when I see the web page with windows(IE),it shows the icons backgrounds.I know that Internet does not support .png files.


IE does support Portable Network Graphics (PNG) files and the net as well. Could you re-phrase your question? If your refering to how graphics show differently on different browsers and versions, then yes sometimes they do depending on numberous factors.

Author: igir3dsk1Location: 7h3 !n73rn37 :) PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2002 8:46 pm    Post subject:
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This is what I mean:

Go to this web site:
http://gconverter.sourceforge.net

now if you go again but with Galeon you will see the webpage diferent.


Thanks

-r-

Author: igir3dsk1Location: 7h3 !n73rn37 :) PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2002 8:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Need help with Icons background!!!
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igir3dsk1 wrote:
I know that Internet does not support .png files.

-r3dsk1-


Sorry about that I should said not good support.

-r-

What I want to make is my Icons transparent either in Galeon and IE.

Sorry for my bad quetion.

Author: flwLocation: U.S.A. PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2002 8:54 pm    Post subject:
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In IE 6 it looks the same which I would expect with your script/codeof:

<body BACKGROUND="fondo5.gif">

Are you trying to rotate the look of the background or have it look the same in all browsers and versions?

Author: flwLocation: U.S.A. PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2002 9:00 pm    Post subject:
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What I want to make is my Icons transparent either in Galeon and IE.


Do you mean translucent?

Author: ShaolinTigerLocation: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2002 9:06 pm    Post subject:
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Gif's support transparency and are far more cross browser compatible than png.

Try it with a gif instead.

Author: igir3dsk1Location: 7h3 !n73rn37 :) PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2002 9:09 pm    Post subject:
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fastlanwan wrote:
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What I want to make is my Icons transparent either in Galeon and IE.


Do you mean translucent?


Yes that's what I mean.

Author: igir3dsk1Location: 7h3 !n73rn37 :) PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2002 9:13 pm    Post subject:
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ShaolinTiger wrote:
Gif's support transparency and are far more cross browser compatible than png.

Try it with a gif instead.


I did that but it was not good at all.
What I'm goint to do by now is to change the background of each buttons for the same color of the page background.

Thanks a lot for your help.

Author: igir3dsk1Location: 7h3 !n73rn37 :) PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2002 9:46 pm    Post subject:
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ShaolinTiger wrote:
Gif's support transparency and are far more cross browser compatible than png.

Try it with a gif instead.


Will PhotoShop help in this?

Author: ShaolinTigerLocation: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2002 9:58 pm    Post subject:
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No idea, I use PaintShop Pro 7.02.

It has a transparency wizard, if you don't know how to do it manually Very Happy

Author: flwLocation: U.S.A. PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2002 9:59 pm    Post subject:
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Will PhotoShop help in this?


Its not what you use to make the page, its what you code is and graphics you made it out of. i.e. don't use png. Use gif's. If your question is can you convert it from png to gif then yes.

Author: ShaolinTigerLocation: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2002 10:01 pm    Post subject:
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Yeh but if you convert the transparency will disappear.

Best to do it again.

Author: igir3dsk1Location: 7h3 !n73rn37 :) PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2002 10:10 pm    Post subject:
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fastlanwan wrote:
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Will PhotoShop help in this?


Its not what you use to make the page, its what you code is and graphics you made it out of. i.e. don't use png. Use gif's. If your question is can you convert it from png to gif then yes.


Sorry if you did not understood what I meant,because of my bad english.
I tried to change from png to jpg and then change the background of the button with the same color of the page background,it almost worked in all of them, but some of them got ugly.
I'm going to try it aging with PS.Lets see what come out.

thanks a lot for your time.

Author: WombatLocation: Canberra PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2002 11:48 pm    Post subject:
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IE does support PNGs but does not support alpha-channels in PNGs. An alpha-channel is the bit of a graphic that gives it a partial transparancy (like a drop-shadow effect). You can use a gif to get a full transparancy for part of a graphic but not partial transparencies.

It's a shame really because PNGs have been around for a long time, and were designed specifically to make alpha-channels possible with small file sizes for web use. It's a case of unusual slackness on the part of the IE developers for not bothering to build in support for PNG alpha-channels.

Author: igir3dsk1Location: 7h3 !n73rn37 :) PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2002 11:59 pm    Post subject:
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Wombat wrote:
IE does support PNGs but does not support alpha-channels in PNGs. An alpha-channel is the bit of a graphic that gives it a partial transparancy (like a drop-shadow effect). You can use a gif to get a full transparancy for part of a graphic but not partial transparencies.

It's a shame really because PNGs have been around for a long time, and were designed specifically to make alpha-channels possible with small file sizes for web use. It's a case of unusual slackness on the part of the IE developers for not bothering to build in support for PNG alpha-channels.


Thanks a lot for the information,that was very useful.I did not know that,all I knew was that IE
was not a good png supporter.That's why I hate Microsoft Developers,they are all lazy people,only worrry about get money. Evil or Very Mad

---r3dsk1---



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