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iraq it Just Arrived
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 10:43 am Post subject: Partition Magic for windows server ? |
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Hi,
Anyone have a link to Partition magic free software for windows servers because the copy i have is just for previous windows versions and cant support windows server 2003
Or any safe idea to divide the hard disk except fdisk
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Bannerd Just Arrived
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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Well there are tons of alternatives here. Try Disk Management in window MMC
If that doesn't work you can always use diskpart. It's another windows program that should be installed into the command prompt. More friendly then fdisk.
If that doesn't work download knoppix/Linux and do it that way.
Other than that you will have to spend 40$ and upgrade to partmagic if that's what you want to use.
I would try Disk Management, I have used it alot to splice a HDD etc.
Make sure you backup your stuff.
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iraq it Just Arrived
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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I would try Disk Management, I have used it alot to splice a HDD etc.
Make sure you backup your stuff. |
I will try the disk mangement on separate windows server before apply to the producation servers. Is it suppose that righ click on the C drive in disk mangement give me create new partition or not i am just trying to check it on my windows XP and i couldnt do anything
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iraq it Just Arrived
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 8:35 am Post subject: |
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Hi,
I converted my C drive to dynamic type but still dont know how to create new partition using the disk managment tool any idea
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Cep Just Arrived
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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Partition Magic will not run on a Windows Server environment. I think its either because they do not support the Server OS's or they sell a seperate (possibly more expensive) program for the Server OS's.
I have looked around for some time but have not found any decent free ones that will work on a W2K3 server. You would more likely need to buy one.
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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I looked into this a while back cause I had the same need at a previous job with windows 2000. Most of those partitioning software do not support RAID which SHOULD be part of a good software setup. I would avoid dynamic disks and go for hardware raid. With that being said I did notice that there are server versions that support RAID out there but they are pricey. I myself have never used them as they were to pricey to fix the problem I was dealing with at the time.
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iraq it Just Arrived
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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Cep wrote: |
Partition Magic will not run on a Windows Server environment. I think its either because they do not support the Server OS's or they sell a seperate (possibly more expensive) program for the Server OS's.
I have looked around for some time but have not found any decent free ones that will work on a W2K3 server. You would more likely need to buy one. |
Well, thats what iam looking for and if i want to buy so i dont need to ask
Anyway, i convert the disk to dynamic but i couldnt do anything to have new partition and iam waiting a way so i can test it before apply it
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graycat SF Mod
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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to create a new partition you need to have free disk space. I'm not talking space on a partition that's not being used but free space that hasn't been assigned to any partition.
I'd advise that you do a full system backup, re-install the OS creating the partitions as you want them then restore your data and settings from the backup.
personally, I'd agree with the hardware RAID comment already mentioned here.
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iraq it Just Arrived
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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to create a new partition you need to have free disk space. I'm not talking space on a partition that's not being used but free space that hasn't been assigned to any partition. |
I have free space for the new partition.
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I'd advise that you do a full system backup, re-install the OS creating the partitions as you want them then restore your data and settings from the backup. |
I will not do this at all. This is not a good way i think to have new partition and i dont know why there is no software (like Partition Magic) to do this job in windows server OS
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personally, I'd agree with the hardware RAID comment already mentioned here. |
Well, i have 2 servers that have two HD and may be the RAID will work for this i think, right
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Cep Just Arrived
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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Check the Symantic website and see if they do a Server version of the Partition Magic software. The reason I do not think you will find one is because RAID is not supported by most partition managers.
I would have to agree with graycat here.
RAID is a method of arranging multiple disks into one disk for redundancy and other benefits, I dont think you quite understand what it is.
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graycat SF Mod
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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iraq it wrote: |
I have free space for the new partition. |
great! in that case you can use it to make a new partition
iraq it wrote: |
I will not do this at all. This is not a good way i think to have new partition and i dont know why there is no software (like Partition Magic) to do this job in windows server OS |
i hate to break it to you, mate but this is a good way to change the underlieing disk setup of a server. I've had third party partitioning software fail me in a similar situation and since then I've found it a lot quicker and easier to run a full backup, reinstall / change the partitions and then restore it all back.
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personally, I'd agree with the hardware RAID comment already mentioned here. |
Well, i have 2 servers that have two HD and may be the RAID will work for this i think, right |
sorry, but i'm not sure i follow you here. you've got 2 servers, that each have 2 harddirves installed that may be in some kind of RAID but you want to know if you can change the partitions on them? is that right?
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iraq it Just Arrived
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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i hate to break it to you, mate but this is a good way to change the underlieing disk setup of a server. I've had third party partitioning software fail me in a similar situation and since then I've found it a lot quicker and easier to run a full backup, reinstall / change the partitions and then restore it all back. |
You know, i cant tell my manager that i want to stop the producation servers to make a new partition, thats the case
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sorry, but i'm not sure i follow you here. you've got 2 servers, that each have 2 harddirves installed that may be in some kind of RAID but you want to know if you can change the partitions on them? is that right? |
I have 3 servers with one HD and i want to create new partition in two of them and i have 2 servers with 2 HD (hp DL360G4 model) and i want also to create a new partition on them but i see the HD as one partition.
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graycat SF Mod
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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iraq it wrote: |
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i hate to break it to you, mate but this is a good way to change the underlieing disk setup of a server. I've had third party partitioning software fail me in a similar situation and since then I've found it a lot quicker and easier to run a full backup, reinstall / change the partitions and then restore it all back. |
You know, i cant tell my manager that i want to stop the producation servers to make a new partition, thats the case |
well, you could if it was important. however, i see your point and can only suggest that you learn how to do these things 100% on test equipment as you really don't want to be blundering around on a production server. especially if your job depends on it if you would like to try my suggested method, you might be interested in knowing that i can tear the server down and rebuild it using different disks / partitions in about half a day. the up side is this is scheduled down time and therefore accepted. if you feel the gain is worth the down time, then go for it. if not, then don't. your call, chief
iraq it wrote: |
I have 3 servers with one HD and i want to create new partition in two of them and i have 2 servers with 2 HD (hp DL360G4 model) and i want also to create a new partition on them but i see the HD as one partition.
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ok, may i suggest that you try building servers along the following lines: c:\ - 10Gb for the OS only, e:\ - 10 to 20 Gb for programs and f:\ just for data and as big as you need. this way your OS is seperated from your data and programs thus if one drive (or partition depending on how you've built the hadrware) dies or corrupts then you should still be ok.
one thought: you mention the DL360G4 - isn't that the 1U high server with only 2 internal hdds? if so, have you connected it / them to external raid array or something?
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iraq it Just Arrived
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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you run the risk of nuking all your companys data. a definate CLM*
*career limiting move. |
What do you mean by this
Is the link that you gave contain a way to create a new partition in one HD dynamic disk in Win. 2k3
You know i convert my HD to dynamic and the right click menu dont give any active action
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graycat SF Mod
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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iraq it wrote: |
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you run the risk of nuking all your companys data. a definate CLM*
*career limiting move. |
What do you mean by this |
you are in danger of loosing all of the data on the server and thus getting fired.
HTH
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