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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Baiscally it's the individual boycott thing.

Let's say we picked a date, say January 1st, 2004.

Each of us went to every BBS we frequent and announce that there WILL be a SpamCott (We can make up words, right?), beginning that day.

Just announce it as a done deal, and get it spreading.

Nobody is going to know that it's just a few guys on one board that kicked the idea around and then went forward "as if" it were some massive international movement.

Along about October, we see about getting some media coverage of it, if it's not already happening.

Stupider things have become internet phenomenons.


As far as fake spam being used to hurt companies...

I think that's more of a theoretical issue than a real concern.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then I'd suggest a web site in the same style as the BBS posts, "as if it's a done deal."

As long as it looks professional/convincing, this should help sell the "done deal" image.

People read the post, like the idea, follow the link and see that this isn't just some hoax or flight of fancy. It's real, everyone's on board and it is, as you say, a done deal.

I think there's one or two people who visit this site that know how to make a decent looking web site, right? Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yea, you could probably even send anonymous emails to various news stations around the country telling them that a massive "spamcott" is going to be orchistrasted on the internet... You figure if CNN receives several emails from different people (even if it is only a small group) they might assume its a big deal...
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

uncletom wrote:
I think the answer has to be to spread it by word of mouth, like Eric... said. However, the problem I see is that you can educate people in the problems with spam, how it's cr-at-p, pointless etc etc etc, it's just that some people won't take telling and won't believe anything anyone tells them, this is why I think decision makers, sys admins, CEO's and IT Directors need to get involved and enforce rules on users. The whole event could be publicised in the press, media and specialist publications.

I get the feeling that this plan is enforcable, but it'll involve standing on a few toes and pi55ing a few ppl off, but this isn't always a bad thing


Well, i remembered something from the 3 investigators series i used ti read a long time back.. the ghost to ghost network.

Call up 5 people you trust, and ask them to find the clue you've been looking for. well, extrapolating that, everyone who wants to be part of the project can contact 5 people, who can then contact 5 people each.. all of the contacted ones being people who would readily endorse this idea.

What say?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not anonymous e-mails...


Look, a few years ago some judge in traffic court really pissed me off, so I appealed and then when I won I went back to court with a reporter from the local paper in tow so that the judge could get his full dose of humiliation for being overturned unanimously on the evidence.

The point is, once it becomes an internet phenomenon, all it takes is a call to the local paper during a slow news week, asking them if they are interested in an interesting story.

It doesn't take a lot for a story to then end up on the wire.

And FWIW, I can even do something really special, once things are really rolling.

I live in NY and if I show up at a certain radio station with a woman who is willing to get naked, I can announce it on the Howard Stern show.

And no, I'm not joking.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha good idea.. except you have to tell us when.. I listen every morning Smile

OK this is starting to get old now.. In an effort to get aggressive with spam I've started using RBL's or Block lists.. of course the first one I inputed was osirusoft.com, which was one of the primary ones hit by a ddos attack this week (http://slashdot.org/articles/03/08/27/0214238.shtml?tid=111) I give up, if you guys decide on something just let me know how I can help! Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2003 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, here's the thing...

If I go out there as a lone voice in the wilderness, talking out a "SpamCott", I doubt it would do any good.

If we got a dozen people doing it, then people have a good shot at starting to hear about this from many different sources, thus lending the idea credibility.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2003 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EricTheBald wrote:
Well, here's the thing...

If I go out there as a lone voice in the wilderness, talking out a "SpamCott", I doubt it would do any good.

If we got a dozen people doing it, then people have a good shot at starting to hear about this from many different sources, thus lending the idea credibility.


Well, I think a method of contacting 5 people who you know and can convince or (who are already convinced) to start and join a movement about spam would be a better idea than to approach people who you dont.

A personal level of contact is always more helpful and makes the other person confident enough of passing on the same idea to other people, again those who he can convince. If a large number of people can be brought into such a movement, the exponential growth in numbers itself would act in our favour.

Posting this on Linux User Group mailing lists as a general topic would be effective as well, since a large number of people in charge of decision making at many levels, get to know about this idea.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2003 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well, I think a method of contacting 5 people who you know and can convince or (who are already convinced) to start and join a movement about spam would be a better idea than to approach people who you dont.



But that's exactly what I'm saying.

A dozen people who go talk to people THEY KNOW, whether it's real life or on the web.

I'm not suggesting approaching strangers.

The only way it will work is if people who hear about do so from a person the have known for a while and are used to talking to.

Somebody who would be willing to listen BECAUSE they know you.
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