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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 8:36 pm    Post subject: Rating Certifications Reply with quote

Hey Guys,
Check this out....
http://www.certmag.com/articles/templates/cmag_feature.asp?articleid=170&zoneid=9

Gives people a good idea of what each certification is worth, cost to take exams, difficulty level, etc.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll want to take that with a grain of salt.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like belly buttons everyone has a opinion on them. That is just one.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed and although it's fairly comprehensive I'm unwilling to put a lot of faith in a ranking system that places MSCE as advanced..
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to acgree with ST on this one. They also put Network+ and Security+ as intermideate/advanced.. Yea... right.
If you think they are bouth intermediate/advanced.. I've got some ocean front property in AZ that Ill sell really Cheap.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that MCSE and RHCE rated a little too high.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RHCE I rank VERY highly, it's a very technical, practical and well respected Linux certification.

I would say aswell after looking through the curriculum, Security+ is definately intermediate, not really advanced though.

Network+/A+/MSCE are all basic IMHO.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The one thing that I like about the GIAC certs and the CCIE is that they incorporate a practical portion as well as exams like all the other certs. The practical part is what separates the very good ones from the average one's imho.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive been studying the Security+ and will be taking it in december. Its basic security and conceptual security. That is why I put Security+ in the beginner category. Also I noticed they Missed the LPI totaly. That is a good general linux cert.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ive been studying the Security+ and will be taking it in december. Its basic security and conceptual security. That is why I put Security+ in the beginner category. Also I noticed they Missed the LPI totaly. That is a good general linux cert.


But surely basic and conceptual security isn't 'basic computing knowledge' yes I agree it's basic on the security scale, but security in itself is not basic, that's why I put it in intermediate.

LPI is excellent aswell yes, I also wondered why they missed it.

I did post a good peice about Linux certs today though perhaps you could look through that.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahh.. ok I see why you are putting Sec+ in the advanced field now I will have to look at the Linux certs you posted. Ive been thinking of getting some linux certs.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's really only two certs that I think are worth a damn, and that's CCIE & RHCE, and I don't have either.

I have a CCNA, a CCDA and part of a CCNP (passed BSCI) exam, and NONE of those get any respect that I've seen.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CCIE obviously kicks a**, but the RHCE is too vendor specific nor does everyone use RH for their servers either. You are better off with some of the other certs such as GIAC which are field specific vice vendor specific. Not to mention you must actually prove via a practical assignment that you know what your doing.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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CCIE obviously kicks a**, but the RHCE is too vendor specific nor does everyone use RH for their servers either. You are better off with some of the other certs such as GIAC which are field specific vice vendor specific. Not to mention you must actually prove via a practical assignment that you know what your doing.


Heh you are showing yourself up again don, RHCE is Redhat but it's not actually very Redhat specific, Linux afterall is Linux.

And for your second point RHCE is mostly practical/lab based..
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Linux is linux that is rather obvious. Showing myself up again? I see. What is the point really of getting RHCE? I would imagine it would be most applicable to working on a RedHat server don't you think? Or does the RHCE cert based on SuSE for lab work? You tell me. As for it be mostly lab based, that I did not know, and it is cool that it is.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Linux is linux that is rather obvious. Showing myself up again? I see. What is the point really of getting RHCE?


The point is to learn to be a competent Linux systems administrator, on any distro, base concepts are base concepts.

Are you telling me if you learnt a lot about Windows 2000, you couldn't apply the knowledge to XP? (very similar with slight cosmetic differences).

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I would imagine it would be most applicable to working on a RedHat server don't you think?


Remove the GUI and the Installation routine SuSE = Redhat

Servers shouldn't have GUI's Smile

Sadly I don't think anyone here has an RHCE so they can't enlighten us.
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