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PhiBer SF Mod
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EricTheBald Just Arrived
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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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You'll want to take that with a grain of salt.
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flw Forum Fanatic
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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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Like belly buttons everyone has a opinion on them. That is just one.
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ShaolinTiger Forum Fanatic
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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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Indeed and although it's fairly comprehensive I'm unwilling to put a lot of faith in a ranking system that places MSCE as advanced..
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squidly Trusted SF Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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I have to acgree with ST on this one. They also put Network+ and Security+ as intermideate/advanced.. Yea... right.
If you think they are bouth intermediate/advanced.. I've got some ocean front property in AZ that Ill sell really Cheap.
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delete852 Just Arrived
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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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I think that MCSE and RHCE rated a little too high.
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ShaolinTiger Forum Fanatic
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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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RHCE I rank VERY highly, it's a very technical, practical and well respected Linux certification.
I would say aswell after looking through the curriculum, Security+ is definately intermediate, not really advanced though.
Network+/A+/MSCE are all basic IMHO.
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alt.don SF Boss
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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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The one thing that I like about the GIAC certs and the CCIE is that they incorporate a practical portion as well as exams like all the other certs. The practical part is what separates the very good ones from the average one's imho.
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squidly Trusted SF Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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Ive been studying the Security+ and will be taking it in december. Its basic security and conceptual security. That is why I put Security+ in the beginner category. Also I noticed they Missed the LPI totaly. That is a good general linux cert.
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ShaolinTiger Forum Fanatic
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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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squidly wrote: |
Ive been studying the Security+ and will be taking it in december. Its basic security and conceptual security. That is why I put Security+ in the beginner category. Also I noticed they Missed the LPI totaly. That is a good general linux cert. |
But surely basic and conceptual security isn't 'basic computing knowledge' yes I agree it's basic on the security scale, but security in itself is not basic, that's why I put it in intermediate.
LPI is excellent aswell yes, I also wondered why they missed it.
I did post a good peice about Linux certs today though perhaps you could look through that.
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squidly Trusted SF Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 12:37 am Post subject: |
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Ahh.. ok I see why you are putting Sec+ in the advanced field now I will have to look at the Linux certs you posted. Ive been thinking of getting some linux certs.
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EricTheBald Just Arrived
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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 1:06 am Post subject: |
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There's really only two certs that I think are worth a damn, and that's CCIE & RHCE, and I don't have either.
I have a CCNA, a CCDA and part of a CCNP (passed BSCI) exam, and NONE of those get any respect that I've seen.
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alt.don SF Boss
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CCIE obviously kicks a**, but the RHCE is too vendor specific nor does everyone use RH for their servers either. You are better off with some of the other certs such as GIAC which are field specific vice vendor specific. Not to mention you must actually prove via a practical assignment that you know what your doing.
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ShaolinTiger Forum Fanatic
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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 1:11 am Post subject: |
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alt.don wrote: |
CCIE obviously kicks a**, but the RHCE is too vendor specific nor does everyone use RH for their servers either. You are better off with some of the other certs such as GIAC which are field specific vice vendor specific. Not to mention you must actually prove via a practical assignment that you know what your doing. |
Heh you are showing yourself up again don, RHCE is Redhat but it's not actually very Redhat specific, Linux afterall is Linux.
And for your second point RHCE is mostly practical/lab based..
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alt.don SF Boss
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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 1:23 am Post subject: |
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Linux is linux that is rather obvious. Showing myself up again? I see. What is the point really of getting RHCE? I would imagine it would be most applicable to working on a RedHat server don't you think? Or does the RHCE cert based on SuSE for lab work? You tell me. As for it be mostly lab based, that I did not know, and it is cool that it is.
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ShaolinTiger Forum Fanatic
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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 1:24 am Post subject: |
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alt.don wrote: |
Linux is linux that is rather obvious. Showing myself up again? I see. What is the point really of getting RHCE?
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The point is to learn to be a competent Linux systems administrator, on any distro, base concepts are base concepts.
Are you telling me if you learnt a lot about Windows 2000, you couldn't apply the knowledge to XP? (very similar with slight cosmetic differences).
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I would imagine it would be most applicable to working on a RedHat server don't you think? |
Remove the GUI and the Installation routine SuSE = Redhat
Servers shouldn't have GUI's
Sadly I don't think anyone here has an RHCE so they can't enlighten us.
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